Comments on: Miami Heat: A Dynasty Despite Lost Draft Picks?

By: Pat

Pat — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:28:00 +0000

Ben, Thanks for responding and not rubbing my face in the fact that D-Rose was unable to come back last night. IMO the Bulls would have been able to make more of a game with it had Hinrich been available. Did you notice that Tibs appeared to bench Nate Robinson for the beginning of the 2nd half, he didn’t come back until 9 minutes left in the game. So I hope that anything other than our 4th string point guard can help us get back in the playoff hunt.

By: Ben Beecken

Ben Beecken — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:36:00 +0000

Certainly, Miami had to give up some picks to help build their current roster. But there were picks that were given away prior to getting the Big Three together. 2008 (Pekovic) and 2009 (Lawson) were pre-LeBron/Bosh.

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:23:00 +0000

Ben, you can add Dexter Pittman and your 2013 second-round pick to your list of Miami draft picks playing elsewhere. As you have indicated Miami could have had these players as well as Nikola Pekovic, Ty Lawson, Eric Bledsode, Arnett Moultrie as well as Dwayne Wade had it not been for the backroom dealings. Miami fans would also have known the feeling a having a clear conscience at the end of the day, having known that their team played by the rules.

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:51:00 +0000

Ben, In my original comment below I used the phrase “by any means possible”, when I referred to the Heats building a perenial Championship contender.
What every NBA fan who does not have a man crush on LeBron James and the Heat for having the greatest group of NBA superstars on the same team need to ask themselves is was everything on the up and up. Both Lebron and Chris Bosh were only allowed to talk with the teams that they had existing contracts with, the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Toronto Raptors respectivel, prior to the begining of Free Agency (July 1, 2010). But as you have pointed out Riely already knew on draft night (June 24, 2010) that both Lebron and Bosh were going to bring their talents to South Beach and join with Dwayne Wade who would be resigning.
Just how did Mr. Riley and Heat pull this off? A loophole called Dwayne Wade. While the Heat couldn’t contact LeBron James and Chris Bosh or their people directly, they could communicate with them through Dwayne Wade. Because this could not have been done without the go ahead by the Heat organization (as they are the ones that would have had to sign off on this long before July 1).
Yes, I am saying that Riley may have been working on this opportunity to win at all costs for a while prior to July 1, 2010,perhaps years. That is how they had nothing on the books prior to the beginnig of FA in 2010. (Be honest with yourself, No team would have taken such a gamble). Every NBA fan knows this collusion occurred, and this is why Cleveland and the rest of the league will only be happy once the Heat fail and this comes back to bite them in the ass,

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:48:00 +0000

Ben, In my original comment below I used the phrase “by any means possible”, when I referred to the Heats building a perenial Championship contender.
What every NBA fan who does not have a man crush on LeBron James and the Heat for having the greatest group of NBA superstars on the same team need to ask themselves is was everything on the up and up. Both Lebron and Chris Bosh were only allowed to talk with the teams that they had existing contracts with, the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Toronto Raptors respectivel, prior to the begining of Free Agency (July 1, 2010). But as you have pointed out Riely already knew on draft night (June 24, 2010) that both Lebron and Bosh were going to bring their talents to South Beach and join with Dwayne Wade who would be resigning.
Just how did Mr. Riley and Heat pull this off? A loophole called Dwayne Wade. While the Heat couldn’t contact LeBron James and Chris Bosh or their people directly, they could communicate with them through Dwayne Wade. Because this could not have been done without the go ahead by the Heat organization (as they are the ones that would have had to sign off on this long before July 1).
Yes, I am saying that Riley may have been working on this opportunity to win at all costs for a while prior to July 1, 2010,perhaps years. That is how they had nothing on the books prior to the beginnig of FA in 2010. (Be honest with yourself, No team would have taken such a gamble). Everybody NBA fan knows this collusion occurred, and this is why Cleveland and the rest of the league will be happen when the Heat fail.

By: Pat

Pat — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:56:00 +0000

Ben, When Jordan and the Bulls were winning their championships they often ended up giving away their draft picks or attempted to find a serviceable big man for the center spot, since Bill Cartwright was already near the end of this playing days when the Bulls acquired him in a trade with NY for Charles Oakley. Durring this period, acquiring players via trades, was really the only way that you would have to acquire an important piece for an existing championship contender. But times have changed and unfortuantely championship Teams are no longer built like this anymore. So the biggest reason a team like the Heat needs to acquire assets in the draft now, is because without key role players – playing on their rookie contracts, the superstars they have already acquired, may just turn around and leave once they become free agents. (So I guess what comes around goes around). Today on ESPN’s First Take, Steven A. Smith and Skip Bayless talked about how the Lakers have no one on their books other than Steve Nash for the 2014-2015 season when Lebron, D Wade and Bosh are all FA’s. (This was their exact statement).
So when Lebron and company said they were going to win all these championships together, are you sure that he included the Miami Heat in that statement?
Just in case maybe you should go back and check just to make sure?
This just in “D-Rose to make his season debut against the Miami Heat on February 21 @ the United Center.”

By: Pat

Pat — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:13:00 +0000

Ben, When Jordan and the Bulls we winning their championships they often ended up giving their draft picks away, or attempted to find a serviceable big man for the center spot since Bill Cartwright was already near the end of this playing days when the Bulls acquired him in a trade with NY for Charles Oakley. Durring this period, acquiring players via trades, was really the only way that you would have to acquire an important piece for an existing championship contender. But times have changed and unfortuantely championship Teams are no longer built like this anymore. So the biggest reason a team like the Heat need to acquire assets in the draft now, is because without key role players – playing on their rookie contracts, the superstars they have already acquired, may just turn around and leave one they become free agents. (So I guess what comes around goes around). Today on ESPN’s First Take, Steven A. Smith and Skip Bayless talked about how the Lakers have no one on their books other than Steve Nash for the 2014-2015 season when Lebron, D Wade and Bosh are all FA’s. (This was their exact statement).
So when Lebron and company said they were going to win all these championships together, are you sure that he included the Miami Heat in that statement?
Just in case maybe you should go back and check just to make sure?
This just in “D-Rose to make his season debut against the Miami Heat on February 21 @ the United Center.”

By: Pat

Pat — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:51:00 +0000

Ben, When Jordan and the Bulls we winning their championships they often ended up giving them away or attempted to find a serviceable big man for the 5 spot since Bill Cartwright was near the end of this playing days when the Bulls traded Oakley to NY for Cartright. Durring this period that was really the only way that you would have to acquire an important piece to a championship team. But unfortuantely championship Teams are no longer built like this. The biggest reason why a team like the Heat need to acquire assets, is because without them the superstars they have acquired, by any means possible, may turn around and leave one they become free agents. (So what comes around goes around). Today on ESPN’s First Take, Steven Smith and Skip Bayless talked about how the Lakers have no one on their books for the 2014-2015 season, when Lebron, D Wade and Bosh are all FA’s.
So when Lebron and company said they were going to win all these championships together, are you sure that he included the Miami Heat in that statement?
Just in case maybe you should go back and check just to make sure?
This just in “D-Rose to make his season debut against the Miami Heat on February 21.”